Marijuana bad for spritual growth...?

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Permalink Reply by Pilipone on June 23, 2008 at 3:48am

Hi Vermillion, how r u? Well, i personally think that life in this physical plane must be a balance of everything. From this point of view, anything that you take into your body must be in healthy quantities. It does not matter if you're talking about chocolate, food, alcohol or marijuana. Anything in EXCESS, even some vegetables themselves, can be bad for you. Now of course there's a difference about the substances that you intake: some are labled "good" and some such as marijuana, "bad". It is a mild form of acid and through excessive use cause brain tissue damage, sexual disfunction and others. However, it is natural and it is administrated for different psyclogical and physiological reasons by doctors and psycologists. Therefore, i personally think that as long as it is a natural substance you should be fine (from the spiritual point of view). I, once again, believe in the balance of the intaking of any "thing" into your body. It is your responsability to not let it take control over you. Now, from another point of view, you may be contributing to the whole war for drugs throughout the world, by buying it, feeding the criminality. It's actually a very delicate issue. But as i said before, from the spiritual point of view, it is just another natural substance you're intaking. ithink the "devil" wouldn't spend a spec of energy creating such thing LOL. His work is probably try and get you hooked up on it though lol!! Love and peace.

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Permalink Reply by Vermillion (One) on June 23, 2008 at 4:31am

I love this reply!

i will admit, i do smoke it. Not a pot head. I dont need it, but i enjoy it. I dont let it take control of me. I Just feel its a nice little calmer downer once and a while and allows a bit more focus.

great reply!

i would love to hear more opinions! this is not for me, but really for all to read and take note!

Love and light!

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Permalink Reply by Mandarine on June 23, 2008 at 5:18pm

Dear Vermillion,
I'm not good at puting my thoughts into clear writing (my tongue langage is French). But, i can tell you that in the books on Telos, particularly the number one, Lord Adama talk about it in lengh and He said that if you meditate or if you think you grow spiritually by taking marijuana or others, you are just in the lower astrals, you can't reach the Heavens Light because those drugs put a cloud on you etheric bodies and chain them to the lower levels where the light is not that bright.
I hope this could help. I send you my Love and Hug you very tightly in the name of Brotherhood.
Namaste
Nicole

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Permalink Reply by Jacques on June 25, 2008 at 5:54pm

Bonsoir Nicole,
C'est vrai ce que vous dites...La drogue agit aussi sur le prana et le corps éthérique . Vermillion doit "nettoyer" par abstinence et par utilisation de cristaux qu'elle peut porter sur elle. Pour cela, des spécialistes peuvent l'aider.

Namaste !
Jacques

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Permalink Reply by Mandarine on June 27, 2008 at 6:36am

Bonjour Jacques,
ca fait plaisir, un francais sur ce site ! Merci pour votre reponse. j'ai toujours un peu peur de donner mon avis qui pourrait passer comme un jugement. Mais en ces moments, nous avons tous besoin d'aide, ne serait ce que les avis des uns et des autres pour avancer....
Bonne journee !
Nicole

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Permalink Reply by Xaxaar on October 12, 2008 at 11:46pm

"you can't reach the Heavens Light because those drugs put a cloud on you etheric bodies and chain them to the lower levels where the light is not that bright."

and do you not suppose that the additives in our food products aren't doing the same thing? Trust me...there is pretty much nothing you can do in this day and age to truly ascend. Nothing. Unless the entire planet cleanses itself we will still be right here upon the ground no matter how high we fly in our minds.

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Permalink Reply by Xaxaar on October 12, 2008 at 11:44pm

great reply? Did you really buy into all of that propaganda? Seriously...this dude should check his sources...

You want to find out about it on a purely chemical level check out www.erowid.org

If you want to search spiritually that's a different view point...

I think first and foremost you need to realize what "the devil" really is...

In fact, all this talk about light and dark and the devil makes me feel the need to clarify such things, so keep an eye out on the board for a future post by yours truly.

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Permalink Reply by Xaxaar on October 12, 2008 at 11:42pm

ok...let me debunk what you've said. It is NOT a mild form of acid. It cannot cause brain tissue damage in an adult; (anything can stunt the growth of a child or a teen but that doesn't mean that it's one of the definite side effects). And as far as sexual dysfunction...that again is bullshit. I've been smoking pot for YEARS and it's not affected me in the least bit. Check your sources dude.

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Permalink Reply by cosmic fruit on June 23, 2008 at 4:38am

Namaste Vermillion,

Marijuana is neither good nor bad inherently, it is only what you make of it that harms you or helps you. What kind of a person are you being when you’re stoned? If you are hurting others then you need to stop hurting them, but if you are just minding your own business then who can stop you from doing it if you feel you are growing spiritually?

I will tell you my personal experience with marijuana because I have thought deeply about this very question. Marijuana can help you to tremendously concentrate and “dive deep” in introspection. Have you ever been stoned and then tried to meditate? It’s like you’re taking off out of your body! And if you have a busy mind that is buzzing with sounds, marijuana can help you calm and focus. If your true goal is spiritual awakening, then get stoned and make it work for you. Have fun! Take a good look inside your own mind and find out what makes you, you. But really, it is up to you to use it wisely.

But, at a certain point in your spiritual development – and only you can decide this point – marijuana hurts your progress. Why? Because it activates your cerebral cortex. It increases brain activity, and this is exactly the opposite of what you want to do to achieve deep merging with your spirit. The brain should ultimately get out of the way to let your spirit shine through. You can’t think about enlightenment and achieve it. Spiritual awakening is not about thinking and brain activity; it’s about feeling and deep concentration. Getting stoned clouds your mind with smoke and your blood with THC. To go further in your spiritual progress you need to be a clean vessel- eating right, meditating, constructive habits, and drug free.

But don’t let this be a lecture. I am just communicating to you what I have learned from my own personal experiences. Over the years, I have discovered my views about this through writing in a journal and discovering what works for me. Ultimately, it is your decision if you want to be stoner or not. Many stoners have a deep appreciation for spiritual matters, but the question to ask is, Who do you want to be? Do you want to just take it easy and use this life to enjoy sense pleasures (nothing wrong with that, your will is free)? Or, do you want to be a pure vessel of light radiating with the infinite spirit inside of you? The latter choice takes much discipline and much work, but the pleasure is immeasurably greater. But whatever your choice, enjoy it and don’t be hard on yourself because people say this or that. Just make your decisions and be happy with it.

Like you said, there is only your free choice to make marijuana good or bad for you. Best of luck!

peace and love.

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Permalink Reply by ascending soul on June 23, 2008 at 5:55pm

hello kindrid soul,
what is your intention when you smoke?
i believe if your intention is pure then your good to go.
we incarnated here to injoy this( living experience ) for all it's wonder and glory.
i smoke cigaretts and once i a while have a beer,do i believe that it is holding me back spiritualy?
no.
as for it being "devils work", that's just negitive vibes.......

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Permalink Reply by AngelsWeAre on June 23, 2008 at 7:30pm

Hello Vermillion,
I understand that it petrifieth the soul when smoking, not that it's for ever, but it does hamper your progress. Again anything in moderation I guess is fine .....

Peace

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Permalink Reply by Tess on June 23, 2008 at 9:32pm

I´ve reached very high levels with weed, especially when smoking with friends and we are talking about spiritual stuff (infact the highest level ever ever when I´m still awake and aware of it and I never tried any other drugs)

But of course like everything else (food, sex, alcohol) you can be addicted to it and your EGO takes over and then it becomes "evil"

NAMASTE

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