Cruelty to Animals! BECOME VEGETARIAN

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Farida Magdalena Gillot on August 31, 2008 at 3:09am

I was vegetarian from childhood but at that time people considered this and mentally and physically unhealthy and always blamed on my attitude my bad health , because I did not eat so much or not, if I could escape this. Later an iriscopist told me that I had to avoid not alone meat but also beans etc.

Everyone thought I would become more ill than before, but I became stronger. My hemoglobine became better and I was less il than before. But the damage to my body was done.

But I know that other people do need meat and that this is essential for them. But if you do need meat and you eat this without gratefulness towards Nature and the animals whom are sacrificed I consider this as rape and robbery.

In this way humankind easily can debilitate to the lowest creatures in the Universe. If we are thinking that we are superior and may do with that what is ours what we want, because of a sick way of thinking that even humankind needs to vanish to save the planet and who is then the one who wil have the right to survive? Hitler was vegetarian and a lot of his spiritual friends too. Still these groups in a so named sophisticated way they are still determined in planning how to eliminate human race without running the chance to be judged. Cowards in the same time.

Cruelty or as vegetarian or as omnivore are both discusting. No one has the right to play God over Nature, whether on Earth or somewhere else in the Universe. The more we are still depending on energies of a source outside ourselves, whether plant or animal, or for example the hard labour of those who are doing for us the jobs forced or voluntary, of which we consider to be too heavy, dirty, dangerous, humiliating, while still should be done by someone, The more we should feel thankful and humble towards those who sacrifice their lives for the benefits of the many. I think that gratitude in all kinds of ways will give us a different point of view towards Life and all living creatures.. From there we will be able to develop our hearts in a natural way, without moodmaking and fooling ourselves.

I just finished some video's where we can see what separation and exclusion from whatever can bring forth:
The Lucifer Effect - 1of6

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Reverend Dr. Steve Winn, DD, DRS, DBS, RMT (Reiki Master) on August 31, 2008 at 3:26am

While I may not agree with your hypothesis and statements that some humans absolutely need meat and products from animals, I accept your right to have those opinions. I accept the level of awareness and awakening that you have and the choices you make for yourself and the opinions you hold.

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by shanti on August 31, 2008 at 4:08am

I couldn't watch the video, it seems I am very sensitive. Lasy week I decided to stop eating white meat and fish. I already left the red meat. I thought I would do it gradually but after thinking it over I wil become vegetarian, from now on.
Also the damage that is made to this animals, eating meat is not good for anyone, it lowers our vibrations. And I guess it is because of the suffering of the animal when it is killed, all that information and vibrations is what we are eating. So it is very important to become a vegetarian person . My desicition is already taken!!!!!

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by James Arthur Mitchell on August 31, 2008 at 4:22am

Yes! I agree! It's time to stop the killing and torture of these defenseless creatures.

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Claudia on August 31, 2008 at 4:25am

THANKS FOR THIS MESSAGE, I HOPE SOME DAY NO BODY EATS OUR ANIMALS FAMILY, THEY SHOULD BE OUR COMPANY PETS,
IF EVERY BODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPEN TO THEM, ALL THE TORTURE, PAIN, ANTIBIOTHICS, FEMALE HORMONS, VITAMINS ETC. WHAT ALSO MAKE SICK EVERYBODY AND
THAT HAPPENS TO ALL ANIMALS THERE IS NO EXEPTION,
ALL OF THEM SUFFER AND AS THEY DIE IN SUCH CONDITIONS ALSO THEY PRODUCE POISSON IN THERE BODYS, AND PEOPLE INTAKE EVERYTHING ISN'T HEALTY.
AND I THING FOR LIGHTWORKERS THERE IS TO MUCH TO THINK AND DO ABOUT THEM, WE MUST PROTECT THEM.

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Grace on August 31, 2008 at 5:11am

Oh Goddess! This is horrible! Mother Earth is crying for all her children!

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Majix on August 31, 2008 at 5:38am

Purification of the Body

The fundamental human problem is unconsciousness. This is the reason for the spiritual discipline of cultivating awareness: it brings the healing power of divine light into the darkness of your body, mind and soul.

When you follow your unconscious desires the result is usually more suffering. Most people are creating more trouble for themselves; their hurtful actions inevitably return as their future suffering.

When the time comes for purification you are blessed. You stop polluting your body with unhealthy food and habits. You are attracted to a more positive lifestyle that increases sensitivity and respect both for yourself and for all of God’s creatures. You are interested in freedom from your unconscious past.

Before that time arrives you will continue with your unhealthy, uncaring diet and habits. You are pulled by your lust for the flesh of sentient creatures and by your greedy mind into more trouble.

It takes a long time for conscious sensitivity to arise without denial or repression of destructive desires. Hence spiritual teachers suggest a discipline to help you to live more positively, and thus to stop hurting yourself and others in the interim.

The new way of Unity has one primary ethical principle: Do no harm to any creature, including yourself. When you violate this law, it always brings suffering.

The time has come for sincere seekers to understand and apply this law. Your body is a temple of God. It is time for you to stop defiling your temple with unhealthy food and habits. No repression is needed, just a little more sensitivity to yourself and all sentient creatures.

The healthiest and least exploitive diet for people of all ages and conditions is organic vegan wholefood. Eat anything you want from this category.

It is animal products that cause the most damage to you, the animals and the Earth. Cattle are an extremely inefficient food source. Sixteen kilograms of grains and legumes are required to create one kilogram of beef. Ninety percent of all the grains and legumes grown in the United States are fed to animals - they consume ten times more protein and food calories than the American people themselves.

Huge areas of rainforest are destroyed to grow food for beef production. Meanwhile millions of people are malnourished or starve to death for lack of the grains and legumes that are fed to cattle. Meat is literally murder.

Milk and dairy products are unhealthy and exploitive; they are also an inefficient protein source. Dairy production wastes essential resources and causes extensive environmental degradation. Soya milk and other healthy and more efficient alternatives are readily available.

Junk food and sugar are also very bad for your health and are best avoided totally. Many delicious and healthy alternatives can be found easily.

Raw fruit and vegetables often contain some harmful organisms. Parasites are a major health problem and are present in many serious diseases. It is prudent to cook or purify all raw fruit and vegetables to prevent infestation with parasites and harmful microbes. Fruit, vegetables and their juices can be purified with citrus seed extract, hydrogen peroxide or colloidal silver.

Your unconscious eating habits create the diseases of excess that fill the hospitals of the developed world with a multitude of sick and obese people. The cost is high; the USA wastes 14% of its GDP on health care that would not be needed if we changed to a vegan wholefood diet. Your degeneration is gradual and not noticed until you become seriously ill. By then it is too late.

Take this challenge to clean up your act: commit yourself to a healthy and harmless way of eating and living.
Start today.


An excerpt from Unity - The Dawn of Conscious Civilization
The book of the millennium for the buddhas of the new dawn

An essential trilogy for lovers of truth

Download this FREE e-book
www.ishwara.com

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Cosmic Ordering on August 31, 2008 at 12:13pm

The dictum "Cruelty to Animals! BECOME VEGETARIAN" is one of dominance as opposed to empowerment. We have to accept people as they are, to become controlably unflinching in what we see ... not to impose our beliefs on others. I love meat, man has the teeth of a meat eater, but I do not scream out at vegetarians about how plants have feelings, etc and that therefore they should become meat eaters. Once cannot impose one's view on others in a fashion that is meant for some other discipline of life. No doubt I will raise some eyebrows, but in Cosmic Ordering we accept people for what they are ... not for what we want them to be. Sorry! I do hope that this site is not going to become one of those holier than thou sites with viewpoints we feel we have to publicly accept whilst behind closed doors slamming it for being what it is. I am an open-minded person, I do not want to have to feel I am out of order with eating meat just on the say so of a few a few words and the mandatory emotive images. Have you seen what pain a plant goes though when it is harvested for human consumption? Boy, does it scream in pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP EATING VEGETABLES .... THEY ARE OUR KIN FOLK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jérôme Bernard-Pellet on August 31, 2008 at 12:38pm

Thank you for your message Cosmic Ordering.
I think that we accept people in this forum as they are.
However, we wish to share informations. Sharing information isn't the same thing as dominance. Sorry that you see this like a kind of dominance.
We share informations and then people make their choice with their free will.
As far as eating vegetables is concerned, you have to feed farm animals with much much vegetable. You need an average of 10g of protein from plants to do only 1g of animal protein. What a waste! So, if you think that plants suffer (perhaps you are right), then it is an additional argument to stop meat because we will make suffer less plants. What is more, some people are starving in some countries and when we eat meat, we waste much plant food that could be used by people who are starving.
I totally understand that you love meat. But there is a solution for that : fake meat :-)
Fake meat (usually made from soy) tastes very good and meat-eaters I know love it. Try it :-)

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Huddy on August 31, 2008 at 1:14pm

I am VEGETARIAN.

Many people arround me want me to eat meat...most of them eat meat EVERY day!!

We are changing thr frequencies...

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Peter on August 31, 2008 at 2:34pm

Wow. I didn't know there was so much vegetarian here on asthar commande? Where I live, in real 3d land, I'm one of the only. Unless if there are others like me who tend to keep a low profile?
Namasté all...Peter.

▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Reverend Dr. Steve Winn, DD, DRS, DBS, RMT (Reiki Master) on August 31, 2008 at 5:59pm

As I said yesterday: While I may not agree with your hypothesis and statements that some humans absolutely need meat and products from animals, I accept your right to have those opinions. I accept the level of awareness and awakening that you have and the choices you make for yourself and the opinions you hold.

Level of awareness and awakening? In the early days of humankind (the days of humans searching for any food before the large predators could make a meal of humans), it was necessary to eat anything one could that gave one strength and endurance). Even in modern day Thailand, there are remote villages where farmers and workers (no longer struggling with avoiding predators) need sufficient strength and endurance to sow, work and harvest their crops. There is little in the way of large food stock animals (like cows) for food. These rural folk resort to eating water (lake, river, sea) crustaceans, insects, rodents, and snakes along with their rice and veggies and chilies. Their diet provides them the nutrition to continue their work in a healthy manner for the many years of their lives. Everything they eat is produced locally - without chemicals, hormones, additives, and the cruelty and horrors associated with factory animal farming, feedlots and slaughterhouses. Their awareness is one of survival and protecting and growing their families. They know of the modern industrial world. But, they do not generate enough symbolic value (cash, money, financial wealth) to participate in the ways of the post-industrial world of wanton and greedy consumerism. They live in a world where habits and practice (psychologists call this level one of conditioning) are all important. Their habits, practices and traditions are what protect their survival.

I accept that that is a level of awareness that is available to humans. Anyone for a skewer of fried beetles that are today being sold on the streets of Bangkok? If that is an image that appeals to you, then that is your level of awareness and awakening. I accept that that is your level of awareness and awakening. If you have sufficient property and financial resources to purchase and raise food animals in a free-range, organic, non-additive way - using the water and vegetable resources (such as water from rain and humidity in the air perhaps, rather than simple well water) you produce and grow on your property for the animal feed, then I accept that that is your level of awareness. I make no judgement on whether my level of awareness is better or superior or different from yours. I too accept my level of awareness and awakening. If you chose to shop at the local "big box" store for highly processed and factory farmed veggies and meats, then I accept that that is your level of awareness. This is the level of awareness and awakening we each are at. And, acceptance (not agreement, or condoning of an act or opinion or behavior) is the manner of inclusion - allowing everything to be just as it is by acceptance rather than through criticism and denouncement.

Blessings and Love, Joy and Peace, and Light Always!

Steve

▶ Reply to This

• 1
• 2
• 3
• 4
• 5
• 6