Altered State of Mind

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Permalink Reply by Micah3sixty on August 8, 2008 at 3:48am

Thanks for sharing and for being here at Ashtar Command!

Namaste

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Permalink Reply by Angela Dawn on August 8, 2008 at 3:48am

Hi Ron, : )

I was one who replied to those discussions.

Substance abuse puts a veil over the users eyes so that no matter how convincing a non-user is in steering them away from their destructive habit, it falls on deaf ears. Further, the more emphasis ones puts on their own negative behavior, the more difficult it becomes to walk away from it.

Therefore, in a forum like this, I prefer to emphasize letting go of trying to let go, because in trying to let go you are not letting go....LOL!

The reason I respond to these drug posts is because I have suffered the trauma of being in a relationship with an addict. It's destruction at its worst, because there is NO honesty. But I know that I cannot speak to the drug addict, I have to speak to the person. I think that maybe even though I can't delete their habit, I might be able to help them where they are if I don't put them on the defensive.

Plus, what type of addiction do you think puts one in the tightest bondage? Maybe it's the ego? If that is true, then we are all addicts, and drug addiction might just be a symptom of the deeper issue.

At this point in my life I am attempting to choose love, joy and honesty, and as a very dear friend just told me recently, when the ego is replaced with Unconditional Love, only truth remains.

Blessings to you for posting this so tactfully.

Love, Angela Dawn

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Permalink Reply by Julie Armacost on August 8, 2008 at 5:35am

I can relate to all that was said here. The journey into physical is a short trip. We come to experience life. The first twenty years or so are spent in a part spiritual, part physical fog, and when we finally can see clearly, why even think of doing or taking something into our bodies that will set us back several years. There will be no memories.
In my studies of numerology, I have found that we all plan our future life times, we sign contracts. No one to my knowledge deliberates to come into this world with the sole purpose to get hooked on an addiction of any kind. It happens and we hope when it is all said and done that the lessons have been learned by one and all. Let us all pray for our brothers and sisters. May the ones searching for a way out find the hands reaching to them.
In Love and Light I AM Julie

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Permalink Reply by Ron on August 11, 2008 at 11:38pm

I Am Blessed, as averyone who has joined Ashtar. From what you are able to see are only a few friends, what you may not see is that they are all cherished. All have a life story of their own even though they may have chosen to keep it within. Most are a working miricle if not an unfinished best seller.

You see Dawn is full of life and loving light, Julie, is my soul mate of 35 yrs. and the place where I work...lets just say I've been in prison for the past 25 years. Noooo the judge had nothing to do with it. I applied for a job and some idiot hired me.

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Permalink Reply by cosmic fruit on August 16, 2008 at 12:08am

Trying anything new is best when fear is removed, even drugs. However, this does not remove personal responsibility.

Are certain compulsions more acceptable because altering one's mind and health takes longer to notice, such as with video games, television, prescription drugs, meat, and sugar?

Is a substance more harmful because one can see immediate results, such as with pot or alcohol?

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Permalink Reply by BuddhBadBoy on September 4, 2008 at 7:17pm

I saw this thread, and felt the strong urge to reply to it. I completely agree with you, when it comes to addictions, and how people handle them, and how people can be affected by addictions. I don't advocate drug use, and in fact, I strongly discourage the use of “hard man made chemical drugs”. This being said, I will “defend” the use of Cannabis, aka “Pot” and other “natural drugs” as a spiritual guide. (There is no scientific evidence that proves “soft drugs” are addictive).

I have researched the use of Cannabis extensively. I have also researched other forms of “drugs” as well: Mushrooms, salvia, Peyote, etc. The research has been focused on affects, and reasons WHY these drugs are used. In all cases, these drugs are used to “break” or “alter” a persons current perception of their existence. When a person’s perception has been altered, it creates an avenue for them to experience “new and different’ things.

When you go though life, living the same things, experiencing the same things over and over again, it becomes harder for you to “seek” new ways of understanding. You in essence become trapped in your “mind’s web”. Usually when this happens, the only way for a person to ‘break out’ of this trap, is to be exposed by a sudden, sharp or catastrophic situation or event, that causes the person to think of something “new” (such as a car accident, a death in the family, etc). In this society we live in, where we’re bombarded by fear, government programming, etc, it becomes harder and harder for you to escape these trappings.

I myself smoke a bit of Cannabis. How much? Very little. In fact I may smoke a “half joint” once every 2 weeks or so. I also smoke for meditation once in awhile. Why? Because the Cannabinoids in cannabis (pot) are physco-active agents, I find that can ‘enhance’ ALL of your senses. Including your spiritual awareness.

In this society, you can’t go up to a stranger on the street and talk to them, can you? You can’t go up to your fellow man and tell them you love them. You can’t go to your friends and relatives and tell them your intimate feelings and ideas, can you? Why is this? Because we have been programmed NOT to. We just except this “as is”. But you must realize by now, that this isn’t natural, when we are all ONE with the great creator.

I CAN tell you, that when I smoke, (and a few of my friends), cannabis DOES “break down” this fear barrier that we have in our mind. This is why a lot of people feel “paranoid” because they feel their inner intimate self is “exposed” to the world.

These types of ‘drugs’ have been used by priests of old, by the native Indians, by spiritual guides, etc. When they are used in a “proper” way, then they become beneficial to ones spiritual growth. But with anything in life: “everything in moderation”.

Since this site is mostly focused on our enlightened brothers (H.E.B’s), you might find this interesting: (Bashar states that pot, and other natural substances can help with your spiritual growth):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4100471449821338704&ei=...


Just a few interesting links to “think about”:


(conversations with light-beings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30mzNPT7aAU

(just a little technical knowledge)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyote

(“Pot” in the bible: holy anointment)
http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/mayjune96/kanehbosm.html
http://clarusbooks.com/

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